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jini wrote:
當時發表了這篇心得, 和 yakumo 兄有做過 CMM 的討論
他認為即使是小公司也是需要 CMM/CMMI
也給我了一個文件參考
"如何在小公司導入 cmm"

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嗯,剛開始看這篇文章,就發現一個很有趣的現象。

這篇文章的作者一開始引用了tom demarco的話,published in "Why does software cost too much?"可是tom demarco在這本書裡面的第二章,其實就已經在嘲諷cmm了。tom demarco舉了ibm跟microsoft的例子來說明他的論點。還提出下列質問:
Is all of our measurement effort just part of a trend toward institutionalization?

另外在tom demarco講project management的小說,deadline裡面的第十三章,也有討論cmm相關的主題。基本上我不覺得他是cmm的擁護者耶。

回到本文。我覺得,即使是小公司也需要建立良好的process。不過這跟是否要去取得cmm的認證是兩碼子事情。花錢去做cmm認證,跟花時間去tune到符合cmm的標準,我覺得對很多公司來說,不會是當務之急。對很多公司來說,把某一部份的process finetune的比較順會比較重要。我覺得這跟cmm沒關係。

如果硬要扯上關係的話,這就讓我想起了最近看到關於phase的討論。我們公司號稱是用rup在進行開發,骨子裡面其實是用waterfall。在前幾天看到waterfall的討論,就再search一下rup,結果發現咦,原來waterfall也算是被rup包起來了。我去找了一下iteration的concept,發現下面這段話:

Iteration pattern: "Grand Design" Lifecycle
The traditional waterfall approach can be seen as a degenerated case in which there is only one iteration in the construction phase. It is called "grand design" in [DOD94]. In practice, it is hard to avoid additional iterations in the transition phase.

如果waterfall = 某一種形式的iteration(對啦,就只有一個iteration),那任何對於process的修改,是不是都可以宣稱是往cmm/cmmi邁進呢?唉,可是我超不喜歡這種名實不符的事情說。公司的sales/PR/大頭常常對外claim我們是完全follow rup,常常讓我們在implement時,要多寫很多文件,最後還被客戶質問,咦,你們為什麼要寫這種文件?有什麼特別的目的嗎?或是咦,你們怎麼沒有follow rup?...


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19393 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 1191 2003-09-22 23:54
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18796 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 186 2003-09-23 15:34
18825 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan jini 97 2003-09-24 15:07
18842 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 1349 2003-09-24 18:17
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18664 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan JustJava 305 2003-10-16 17:07
18547 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan JustJava 156 2003-10-16 17:11
18527 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 222 2003-10-20 01:33
18395 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan jini 363 2003-10-20 01:40
18588 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 398 2003-10-20 02:05
18417 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan JustJava 469 2003-10-20 09:19
18383 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan Biologic 403 2003-10-20 09:43
18529 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 277 2003-10-20 09:53
18326 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan Biologic 233 2003-10-20 10:10
18790 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 797 2003-10-20 11:30
18549 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan JustJava 772 2003-10-20 12:16
18293 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan Biologic 951 2003-10-20 12:46
18479 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan singlelog 1315 2003-10-20 17:58
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13943 Re:[轉貼] CMM/CMMI in Taiwan KH 452 2005-03-12 23:30
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